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Old 03-01-2011, 10:10 PM   #1
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Default Pathos footpockets review take 2

Pathos came out with the 3rd generation of their unique footpockets. If you're interested in background information read this thread http://www.freedivingspearfishing.co...ts-review.html To sum up the recent history of these foopockets:
  • Pathos are the lightest most compact footpockets on the market.
  • One of the reasons for this is that blades get glued directly into them without rails. See this thread for an explanation of fin rails http://www.freedivingspearfishing.co...planation.html
  • Gluing blades in footpockets this way makes for a permanent installation and an overall lighter and more reactive/faster fin.
  • One of the Pathos footpockets notable advantages is a stiff sole that allows a direct transfer of power to the blade.
  • 1st generation Pathos foopockets had very soft tendons.
  • The combination of lack of blade support by the tendons with the stiff sole caused some carbon blades to break. (This is information I gleaned from my European sources, not a result of my experimenting with Pathos footpockets and Pursuit blades. By the time I found the Pathos footpockets 2nd generation was already out. I think Alan owns one of only two pairs of 1st generation Pathos that I had. He's using them with Pursuit C90 blades for two years now without a problem.)
  • In response to the problem 2nd generation Pathos footpockets were made with very stiff tendons.
  • These tendons were so stiff that it was difficult to combine the footpockets with blades to make an overall moderate stiffness fin. This in turn made marketing the Pathos footpockets difficult.
  • Pathos are my preferred footpockets regardless of their past shortcomings, and I went as far as weakening the tendons / altering them physically to create the stiffness and flex I needed for myself and some customer's fins.
A pic of the notches I made in the tendons of my 2nd generation Pathos footpockets.

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Over the last year I suggested a few times to Pathos to make the footpockets with tendon stiffness somewhere in the middle between 1st and 2nd generation. I guess Pathos received similar input from others, I can't imagine they'd make such a change just based on my opinion, because with their 3rd generation footpockets they did just that. Not only do the tendons now have moderate stiffness and can be combined with Pursuit medium stiffness blades, but the rubber over the foot arch and the toe area is now much softer and more comfortable. I think guys with a high arch that previously found the Pathos to be uncomfortable will now be able to use them. The 3rd generation footpockets allowed me to go down a size from a Pathos number 44-46 to my normal 42-44. A customer that previously wanted to use Pathos footpockets with Pursuit C90 blades and couldn't because the current largest size 46-48 was too small for him, now found the 46-48 size perfect, and he's convinced Pathos changed the mold To be clear the 3rd generation footpockets are exactly the same as the previous ones, except for the grades of rubber used in the different parts of the footpocket, of which there are at least three, freakin' amazing. I'll post some pictures soon because I think the difference in the rubber is visible.

Pathos footpockets are available in the US from www.FreedivStore.com
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:48 PM   #2
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Oh shizzle, this is what I've been wating for...
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:59 PM   #3
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I figured you'd appreciate this Still not the best solution for a narrow foot like the Beuchat.
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Ya... but as light as the beuchats are compared to dessault/omer/spetton... the pathos make my peepee tingle in a funny way.
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:17 PM   #5
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Your peepee should be spasming now



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Old 03-02-2011, 04:14 PM   #6
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Hello Dan, I don't know if you remember me...
I'd like to know if my set fins is from 2nd or 3rd pockets Pathos generation?
I believe that be the 2nd one.
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:30 PM   #7
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those wide weave blades look badass Dan, is that the new look of the blades?
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:59 PM   #8
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Hi Kleberson, you are correct, your Pathos footpockets are 2nd generation.

LB, It's not the new look of the blades, just an option I'm experimenting with.
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Nice!

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Old 03-02-2011, 08:27 PM   #10
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Very interesting Dan. I Like my current Pathos foot pockets which I believe are the the first ones. The tendons are soft indeed. I too would have preferred something a bit more stiff simply to keep the blades from flexing so far back. The foot pocket itself is very comfortable and oh so light

I will continue to use my current fins as I like them very much. They are a pleasure to use for all day diving. However, I am definitely interested to see how these new foot pockets will perform in comparison to the old ones, using the same blades. All I am looking for is to slightly stiffen the back end of the blade and it looks as though this may be the solution.

What is your take on this?

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